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RE: Sex and A Saved Single Person - 6/27/2008 8:24:41 PM
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jlp1
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I don't want to come across as judgmental, but if this thread is going down the road of justifying unmarried sex, I certainly can't agree with that either. To repent means to turn from, so I understanding about messing up and repenting, but that can't be an excuse to go back to the deed over and over again. That would be like a man who hits his wife, repents, and does it again. It can't be like a shampoo cycle, wash, rinse, repeat over and over again. This is the point I was trying to make, no way am I justifying premarital sex, I'm talking about when you set yourself up tomorrow, there's no way you can tell me what you are going to do tomorrow, I take my walk day by day in hope that I do God's will, that His will be done. I can only talk about my past days in celibacy cause it might end tomorrow. quote:
God is very clear on this issue, and I believe we need to do everything we can to not put ourselves in compromising situations. Those of you have kids have an optimum chaperon right there, because surely you would want to be a good example to your children. Delusion if you think you can predetermine every situation, it's not going to happen the way you would like it, now I'm not saying you don't have a choice but you never know what you will choose (watch the movie The Mist by Stephen King) quote:
The Bible is also very clear that no matter how many times someone messes up, we are to forgive them. God knows this quote:
And every single time we mess up, no matter how good our intentions are that we "will never to that again, I promise" ... oftentimes we will mess up. It's our human sin nature. Especially when we are just beginning to turn away from certain actions. Sooooo true, I don't know how many times I promised God I would never do it again, that's why I don't say what I won't do, I live everyday in hope that I won't and pray not to fall in to temptation and ask to be delivered from evil everyday. That's all I can do. All I'm saying is that know your limitation (humans, not an excuse just a fact) know where you are weak, pray everyday for strength and guidance and don't let guilt take over your mind, be mindful of all your actions.
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RE: Sex and A Saved Single Person - 6/27/2008 8:51:09 PM
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OneOfHisJewels
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Delusion if you think you can predetermine every situation, it's not going to happen the way you would like it, now I'm not saying you don't have a choice but you never know what you will choose (watch the movie The Mist by Stephen King) OK, we can't predetermine EVERY situation, but we can be careful, the same way married couples can be careful..i.e. there was a thread a while back on in the marriage folder how a lot of business people make sure not to go on business trips with someone of the opposite sex because they are being careful of their relationship with their spouse. I'm not saying we should arrogantly say, "I would never do that," but I also think it's wrong to deny that we can be proactive at all, and have no personal responsiblity. As pointed out upthread, ok, I was wrong about the kids being a good chaperone, but people can make choices to try and be only in situations where they are accountable. God says He will provide a way out when we ask, and we can ask daily for God to help us do the right thing.
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RE: Sex and A Saved Single Person - 6/27/2008 8:57:18 PM
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jlp1
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You are right, we can definitely try our best to do what is right
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RE: Sex and A Saved Single Person - 6/27/2008 11:35:05 PM
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Everyone have sined and come short of the glory of God. Let me Tell U That Yes U can sin while U are saved. We should die to sin and I have done it to but Ive learned. Yes my relationship of 6 years had to end because he didnt respect me, enough to want to wait until we were married. That's why the bible says we are not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. Say yes is your weakness and U have sex and repent and do it again and repent again, your are not really repenting because U are still doing the same thing. We have to make it up in our mind that we are going to the the right thing because our reward is greater in Heaven
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RE: Sex and A Saved Single Person - 6/28/2008 12:36:46 AM
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OneOfHisJewels
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Let me Tell U That Yes U can sin while U are saved. Oh, I know that, we all sin in thought, word and deed every day. And I was in no way implying that any one of us is righteous and without sin, but that is the one sin that God distinguishes as being against the body, and all other sins are outside the body (although to me it seems like drug use would be against the body, but I digress), however, of course I know that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and someone who told a lie is just as much a sinner as someone who has the sin we are talking about in this thread. God does say it is a sin against the body, but He also does not say that people who committed that sin are worse sinners than others..even Jesus, with the woman who had committed adultery said, "He who is without sin, cast the first stone," and no one cast a stone. Believe me, I think anyone so making this mistake should be shown all kinds of mercy, but I was just saying praying our hardest and working for prevention is good too. And, for the record, I do think self righteousness in this area can be worse than actually stumbling.
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RE: Sex and A Saved Single Person - 6/28/2008 1:33:19 AM
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ORIGINAL: Virtious1 Like most single women in their mid-20s, I long for that someone special. Sexual temptation takes on a different meaning when you're single. It's not just resisting the other man," it's resisting all men. But how do you obey God's command to save sex for marriage when society says, Go for it!"? I had a terrible problem with sexual temptation until I asked God to change my attitude about sex. Titus 2:12 says God's grace teaches us to say "no" to worldly passions. Jesus is the greatest inspiration for me, knowing that He never had sex. I know that the most important thing in life is peace with God and doing his will. I have had opportunities to have sex with unsaved women. They were easy to resist, as I couldn't get out of my mind how many men they had already slept with. The desire for sex is in everybody and though I have it, I would not even consider having sex with anyone but my wife (If ever). STD's are common in my area and that in itself turns me away from sexual promiscuity. I look forward to heaven and my new body. In God's presences there will be absolute bliss and contentment. More than anything in this world could bring, and that is forever. Thou wilt show me the path of life: in thy presence is fullness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures forevermore. (Psa 16:11)
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RE: Sex and A Saved Single Person - 6/28/2008 10:38:37 PM
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Jesus Christ is a much more suitable helper then that which was given to Adam (Gen 2:18-24) He is Immanuel, God With us. Bone of our bone and flesh of our flesh. He is able to sympathies with our weaknesses. We should bring them to God in prayer and ask for Him to strengthen us. He is more then able to do so, just have faith. Its only when we truly pray for something and keep praying do we prove our earnestness. Ask Him to turn your burning passion into a desire to serve Him. My hearts desire is only to serve Him. I know that I will be much more happy in serving Him then finding a wife. Sure I use to fret for a partner but I know that God has better plans for me. I can fully sympathise with anyone who needs somebody, but God can take that need and change it into a strong desire for Him. It is the spirit that gives life the flesh profits nothing. (John 6:63) My true happiness lies in serving Jesus and that's why He has kept me from finding a wife, because He wants me to know that happiness. I do not doubt that He has the same plans for others as well. I was thinking about that passage, "Kiss the son least He be angry." And that night I had a dream. I met this young boy, but he was no ordinary boy. He came up to me and kissed me, he was smiling and there was this indescribable feeling of love and goodwill towards me coming from him. This kiss was not a sexual thing at all, it had nothing to do with that. It is hard to describe but I believe that Jesus love towards us is like that. There is this intimacy, but it is purely spiritual, nothing physical. Whether the dream was just my imagination, or a vision, being with Jesus for eternity will be truly wonderful. How can it not be? Now I am not a fanatic about dreams and visions and all that, but I cannot deny the profound affect that dream had on me. Love is not sex. you can love everybody in the world, but it is impossible to have sex with everyone in the world. Give me that pure and true love any day of the week. I do not think that we will ever experience true love until we meet God in heaven. We may think we know what true love is but, we have never truly experienced it yet, and only Christ has shown us a mere glimpse of it, by dying on the cross for our sins.
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RE: Sex and A Saved Single Person - 6/30/2008 12:22:04 PM
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ORIGINAL: Above_All Sometimes though, we can can be too rigid and it can affect our potential relationships with others. It can affect our ability to open our hearts to another. We become so afraid of giving in to our temptations that we lose faith in our ability to have meaningful relationships. Newby here. Just noticed this forum discussion. Lots of good words... I especially liked this. This entry showed insight, big-time. It caught me because it went a little deeper and in an unexpected direction. VERY good words there, Above_All. That definitely got tucked away in the index cards for this topic in my mind.
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RE: Sex and A Saved Single Person - 6/30/2008 12:28:49 PM
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ju-ju
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ORIGINAL: OneOfHisJewels And, for the record, I do think self righteousness in this area can be worse than actually stumbling. ....and here is another awesome insight on the subject. Wow! Lot's of good discussion goin' on up in here! :) Wouldn't this be along the line of having pride.....and pride comes before the fall? I know God hates pride.
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RE: Sex and A Saved Single - 6/30/2008 7:39:19 PM
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