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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 6:56:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MWD

Could you please describe in painful detail your home network, including how your PCs connect to the Internet. Too much detail is better than too little.

If you guys are both using the same DSL modem, but she is direct-connected to it via USB while you are Ethernet-connected to it (either directly or through a router/firewall), that would explain a lot of what's going on.

Also what is the brand and model number of the DSL modem?

What is the brand/model number of your router/firewall?


She is connected directly to DSL Modem (SpeedStream5100). I am connected to it by a wireless router (Linksys -WRT54G).

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 6:59:25 PM   
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Sorry to be a pain, but I need more.

I need to know HOW she is connected to the modem. I need to know what interface she is using (Ethernet or USB or ???).

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:09:10 PM   
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In total novice lingo....There is a cable running from her computer to the first of four ports in the router and then there is an ethernet cable running from the Internet port on the router to the Ethernet port on the modem.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:14:01 PM   
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We are getting closer.

The modem is connected only to the Linksys, nothing else. Correct?

Your daughter is connected WIRED to the Linksys.

And you are connected to the Linksys... HOW?

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:20:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MWD

We are getting closer.

The modem is connected only to the Linksys, nothing else. Correct?


yes....and to the phone jack of course!

quote:

Your daughter is connected WIRED to the Linksys.


yes

quote:

And you are connected to the Linksys... HOW?


I am on a laptop with built in wireless...is that what you mean?

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:29:08 PM   
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Yes, that is what I mean.

Remember all that stuff we did to the wired port on your PC? You need to go back and do that to the wireless port this time.

Disable IPv6 (or make sure it's still disabled if you already disabled it).
Change DNS server address from automatic to 4.2.2.2.

"OK" out of everything, then in a command window do "ipconfig /all" and paste the output here so I can look at it.

Once that's done, do an "ipconfig /all" on your daughter's system and tell me what the system's IP address, subnet mask, and DNS server(s) are.

I am starting to suspect a bad or misconfigured Linksys (router), but let's keep proceeding in a logical, orderly fashion.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:34:26 PM   
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No, I did it on the wireless, remember? See post 62.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:39:44 PM   
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While you are off doing that junk, some FYI stuff for you...

One of the nastier bits of malware out there these days is a piece of code that sits silently on web sites, even legitimate ones, that reconfigures routers to point web requests to places they ought not to go. For example, redirecting requests for web pages to some server in Russia, and once that connection is made, all kinds of further damage can be done. Viruses/spyware installed, identity theft, etc.

It is possible this is the problem in your case *IF* you have not changed the Linksys's default username/password from <blank>/admin. What's the answer to that one, or do I already know?

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:40:41 PM   
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It was not done on the local...I just went in and unchecked the IPv6 and entered the 4.2.2.2. Now I'll do the rest.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:42:29 PM   
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Ok. So your wireless interface is running without IPv6 and with DNS server 4.2.2.2.

So on your system, ipconfig/all should show your IP address and the subnet mask and the DHCP server. Could you verify those, please, and tell me?

Also need the same info from the other (wired) system.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:45:36 PM   
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It was not done on the local...I just went in and unchecked the IPv6 and entered the 4.2.2.2.
Doesn't matter. Nothing's plugged into that port.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:52:26 PM   
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Look at the reply count on this thread. Down the road, people are going to look at it and think, "Oh, goody! Two geeks ripping the guts out of each other on an arcane technical point! Or a Linux/Windows flame-fest. Let's have a look NOW!!"

So they enter the thread...

...and they see this junk.

:-\

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 7:57:42 PM   
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Daughters computer:

IP address 192.168.1.101
subnet: 255.255.255.0
DNS Server 192.168.0.1

MY Computer

IPv4 address: 192.168.1.100 (preferred)
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
DNS Server: 4.2.2.2

O.k. her computer didn't change. What should I do.

BTW, I have no idea if I changed the default on the Linksys. Please don't tell me I have THAT kind of a problem.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:03:04 PM   
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> O.k. her computer didn't change. What should I do.

Nothing. We don't care at this point. We just want to make sure we don't have duplicate IP addresses. We do not. This is A Good Thing.

1. Pull up a Firefox window.
2. In the URL window up top, enter 192.168.1.1 and then hit <ENTER>.
3. Username: leave it blank.
4. Password: admin
5. See if that gets you into the Linksys config menu.

I hope the answer is no.

6. Who set up the Linksys, or was it just unboxed and plugged in?

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:04:41 PM   
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I think I see part of the problem. But go ahead & get me what I asked for & we'll deal with the other in a moment...

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:09:15 PM   
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I got in.

My friend set it up.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:10:57 PM   
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After we're done w/ this for the evening, pour yourself a stiff one before you read:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r19811336-Most-home-routers-vulnerable-to-remote-takeover

Relevant to your problem? Maybe, maybe not. But it doesn't hurt to be fully-informed.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:21:53 PM   
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Dad burn it.

Signed,
Hoss Cartwright

Do the following at your own risk (extraordinarily slight, but it's there) of losing Internet connectivity, requiring a service call to your DSL provider.

1. Kill power to modem, router, and PC.

2. Disconnect cable between modem and router.

3. Connect a system directly to the modem (to the same port the router was plugged into).

4. Power up modem.

5. Wait 30-60 seconds for sync with the service provider's DSL equipment.

6. Power up PC & let it come all the way up.

7. Do an ipconfig/all on the system (from a command window, obviously) and see if the modem handed you an IP address and subnet mask. Also note the DNS server address.

8. If you got an address & subnet mask, see if you can get to the web sites in question.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:22:00 PM   
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Yikes...I started reading it I have not noticed any weird activity on our accounts though...should I change my login on Linksys? Also, wouldn't it just affect me...not my daughter, since she's hardwired to the modem?

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:23:31 PM   
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Step 1 addendum: Don't just kill the power to the PC. Shut it down normally.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:36:51 PM   
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Yes, you should change the router password.

You should have someone configure the router for you, professionally.

Your daughter is not hard-wired to the modem. She is connected to the router with an Ethernet cable.

Let me know how that exercise direct-connecting to the modem works out.

I will be with a client in 25 minutes. Let' see if we can get an answer on this before then.

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:40:46 PM   
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IP address: 71.138.240.235
Sub net mask 255.255.255.0
DSN server: 192.168.0.1

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:41:58 PM   
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Your daughter is not hard-wired to the modem. She is connected to the router with an Ethernet cable.


Doh!! I realized that after I said it!

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:54:00 PM   
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So... can you get to your web sites with that PC connected directly to the modem?

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RE: Unable to connect to certain sites... - 7/17/2008 8:56:08 PM   
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Yes, we can.

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