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SusieQue -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/8/2005 2:07:28 PM)

Iluminati: I think all of us feel this way sometimes. There's no organic way a human being with all the changes that we go through could possibly be up and ok all the time. And yes, there was a time in my life when I was pretty contolled by fear all the time. The thing that the Word of God and knowing Jesus have done to help me in this area is two fold: Memorizing the bible keeps your mind on healthy things and helps you get to know God. Sharing everything in your life with Jesus gives you an amazing inner strength and keeps your mind, spirit, and emotions healthy. Of course there are other things many people do, but you asked specifically if Christianity could help. This is what I do to stay healthy and I'm thankful to have Him available to me.



chiclets -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/8/2005 4:12:01 PM)

what things make you sad?

i've been doing well the past few months but i notice myself weaken in certain areas. my mom can make me sad and being alone makes me sad. also, thinking about wht i'm lacking instead of what i have brings me down.
maybe i should identify the other things that cause these short relapses and change them...

has anyone else tried this?



womaninchrist -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/8/2005 7:57:55 PM)

Apple, that's a very good idea. Most people (even ones that aren't diagnosed with a mental illness) have things that are almost certain to set off a certain mood. The trick is not only identify them but to figure out effective and appropriate ways of dealing with those things. Sounds like you're already off to a good start with this.



fisherwoman77 -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/9/2005 5:53:09 PM)

Giulia,

I fast twice a year for ten days each time.And also for 30 years now have watched my diet and it helps immensly.Depression runs in my family.Partly chemical,partly circumstances. Tried the med route,didn't work for me.(For years)So,I basically seek to keep balance with the Lord ,diet,emotionally.The fasting is of great benefit to me in the area of mental health.Maybe you have heard of the Lemonade Diet,by Stan Bourghs?



iam44 -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/10/2005 11:30:04 AM)

Does anyone know if collecting odd things like steel or metal stuff caused by a compulsive disorder or ADD[?] Because i collect things and its not socially acceptable to most people as considered odd enough and most people do not collect things i have noticed --only cards or stuffed animals that make profit or money [like coins]..



salos -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/10/2005 1:02:43 PM)

Desire, I collect blankets and afghans. I always have more in the house than what we really need. I think it's because it makes me feel snuggy -- warm and accepted.

I think that anything that there is in the world, someone collects it.



Jobstears -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/11/2005 11:17:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pinksultana

Man Im having a bad day today....I suffered from clinical depression for four years and was on medication, and then I beleive I was released from the mental illness by Gods grace...but every now and then I wake up having a really bad day feeling like the old days...it takes everything I have to fight the depression and pray it away...but today I am having a rough time and Im so thankful this thread is here so I can share that.

Have you ever felt isolated in a room full of people? Or overwhelmed by life because you need to do one errand? Or so unsure of who you are that you look in the mirror and it actually feels weird to see your face because it feels like youve never really seen it before?
Its so hard to explain but on these bad days all I can think about is longing for nothingness...scared to die or live... I long for a new life but I dont want to do anything...it sounds lazy but it not that...its just an inescapable sadness

dont get me wrong I love God and have a relationship with him, but on these days it takes so much to hold onto him....

thanks for listening


Hi Pinksultana, I only read your post today (10 days after you posted ) so forgive me for coming in late. I don't suffer from any of the problems cited on this forum, but am here because I have a daughter who is diagnosed as bi-polar. She has periods of depression and a sister-in-law who is bi-polar and who suffers from DEEP depression, so I thought I'd pop in and see what folks are talking about here.

I'm so sorry you were having a bad day that day and hope it didn't last too long. Your description of your feelings tore at my heart. Often folks don't articulate exactally how they are feeling, but you were strong enough to share and I appreciate it. I don't think that most of us ever come close to feeling the way your do on your occasional bad days. My sister-in-law once told me (when I asked her to describe her feelings on the days she literally can't get out of bed) that she opens her eyes on those days and can see NO color. Everything is a uniform gray. It broke my heart. I knew those words weren't a euphamism for blah, but spoke of the depths of depression that she is in at times. Those are the days when it is impossible to find any reason for getting up. I'm sorry you have such bad days........... but I am thrilled to know that your relationship with our heavenly Father has released you from the predominance of that lifestyle.

Just know that on the days that you are DOWN, that you don't have to hold on to God. HE will be holding on to you! God bless you.

M.




Invisible_Woman -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/14/2005 6:54:03 AM)

Goodmorning, I haven't read the entire 3 pages, mostly the first and last. I am bipolar. I am pretty much basically medication resistant. Although right now my pdoc is trying a new med on me. Like many times in the past I'm not sure sure it is not bringing on mania. For about a week now I have not been sleeping my normal pattern. I awake alot and then finally reach a point I can't sleep at all anymore so I just get out of bed. In the past month and a half I was hospitalized for 3 weeks because I was suicidal. So I can relate to alot of what people are saying.

I've never heard anyone describe that saying as Pinksultana did about looking in the mirror and it's like you don't know who that is staring back at you. Strange feeling that is.

Jobstears I'd like to say bless you my friend. Your last line about God holding on to one and them not having to hold onto Him. That was great.

Bless you all here. God is good and He truly does give us what we need each day to live even when it doesn't feel like it. We can put our trust in Him. He even understands those days that we wonder if we will make it through.



stateofgrace -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/14/2005 8:42:13 AM)

Oh, latic...if I had only known of your situation in the last few weeks, I would have been in prayer for you. I'll be praying that the new med works out. Have you had problems with the anti-psychotics like Topamax, Seroquel, etc? They have given my daughter so much stability, and tend to help with mania.



stateofgrace -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/14/2005 8:44:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: desire-truth56

Does anyone know if collecting odd things like steel or metal stuff caused by a compulsive disorder or ADD[?] Because i collect things and its not socially acceptable to most people as considered odd enough and most people do not collect things i have noticed --only cards or stuffed animals that make profit or money [like coins]..


It is common for folks with OCD to collect stuff. My nephew does this a lot. It's not a good idea to let him into a state welcome center, for example. :)



Invisible_Woman -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/14/2005 10:15:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: stateofgrace

Oh, latic...if I had only known of your situation in the last few weeks, I would have been in prayer for you. I'll be praying that the new med works out. Have you had problems with the anti-psychotics like Topamax, Seroquel, etc? They have given my daughter so much stability, and tend to help with mania.


Thanks for your support, I have no doubt if anyone can understand my situation it is you. [sm=kisslips.gif]


Seroquel does help with the mania, if anything it keeps me more hypomanic then going into a full-blown mania. Which I'd rather be hypomanic then manic anyday. Topamax is a great mood stablizer, unfortunately since I don't have prescription coverage I am not able to afford it. My pdoc always has samples of either seroquel or risperdal to give me and they are interchangable pretty much for me.



Invisible_Woman -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/14/2005 10:18:10 AM)

stateofgrace,
will you do me a favor and check out the thread here on the health forum that I started about the Vagus Nerve Stimulator. I really need help thinking of questions to ask the surgeon. I'm horrible at seeing things unbiased once I think it is a good thing. (anyone else please feel free to read the thread and give suggestions too)
thanks,
lauri



womaninchrist -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/14/2005 1:13:24 PM)

Lauri,
I hope you don't mind me responding here about the VNS.

I'm also bipolar and treatment resistant. I've been through at least 25 meds and most were rejected due to a really bad side effects from way down the list of rare reactions (turns out that I apparently have trouble along the 2 metabolic pathways that are involved in metabolism of almost every modern psych med). My case is pretty complicated too, in addition to bipolar I have diabetes, migraines and a movement disorder that typically reacts to things that would be seizure triggers. Oh, and my typical reaction to atypical antipsychotics is to develop new movement disorders (usually a combination of akathisia and dystonia) - that's happened on every atypical I tolerated well enough to stay on it 2 weeks or longer.

I've started looking into the VNS myself. It's major surgery and rather expensive, but it seems to be well tolerated and when it works for mood correction it works well over the long term. Unfortunately the study that I've managed to find folded the bipolar patients in with the ones who had unipolar depression, so it's kind of hard to say what it'd do for someone with bipolar - and it was also a rather small sample if I'm remembering correctly. All that said, I think if it turned out that I had coverage I'd probably give it a try. At least the VNS isn't implicated as inducing metabolic changes and movement disorders and it doesn't involve the risks associated with ECT.



Invisible_Woman -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/14/2005 3:47:32 PM)

Womaninchrist,
No don't mind you responding here at all. In fact I know the mods have said to make this thread the one stop for mental illness, unfortunately I had started the VNS thread before they did that. If they want to move that thread into this one I wouldn't mind.

So sorry about all your troubles. My insurance has approved my surgery. I personally don't consider all that major of a surgery since it is outpatient. What about it do you feel makes it a major surgery. Is being under anesthia for 1-2 hours considered major? Probaby huh?

I as you only saw the study that had unipolar and bipolar lumped together. I guess since I seem to batttle depression more than mania that to me the thought of the VNS implant just seems to good to be true. Hence my writing so much about hoping that if someone sees the negative they can point it out to me. So far I am going forward. We will see..............



stateofgrace -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/14/2005 4:32:37 PM)

LOL, a... I saw that thread title, saw the first word...and thought it was a thread I wanted to avoid (hint: I thought due to the first half of the first word it might be something used for treating, err, intimacy problems in women!!!!). I didn't know what the vagus nerve was, so I guessed...and guessed wrong!

Anyhow, sounds promising.



womaninchrist -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/14/2005 5:13:05 PM)

I just call it major surgery because it involves 2 sites and it involves messing with the brain at least indirectly (I forget the exact physiology).

I seem to manage to baffle neurologists and psychiatrists. I guess my three conditions almost never occur together and from what I've been told my reactions include things thought to be impossible (like getting movement disorders as reactions to every atypical antipsychotic)... I'm also apparently odd because I tend much more to mania and hypomania than depression.



Invisible_Woman -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/14/2005 5:28:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stateofgrace

LOL, a... I saw that thread title, saw the first word...and thought it was a thread I wanted to avoid (hint: I thought due to the first half of the first word it might be something used for treating, err, intimacy problems in women!!!!).


ROFLOL

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stateofgrace -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/15/2005 9:25:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: womaninchrist

I'm also apparently odd because I tend much more to mania and hypomania than depression.


I don't know why that would be considered odd...so does my daughter.



womaninchrist -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/15/2005 9:56:51 AM)

All my psychiatrists seem to think I should tend to depression with bouts of mania and they've very often tested me for hyperthyroid (despite things like being heavy and having a low body temp). That said, your daughter is one of several people I know that tend more to a form of mania so I don't know why it'd be so baffling to psychiatrists.



princessreba -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/15/2005 10:09:07 AM)

[sm=kinglysmile.gif]Christ has allowed the brokeness for a reason. I know in my life(I really
can't speak for anyone else), I had to learn that I had to heal from the
inside-out! So many lies of the enemy that needed releasing and so
much unforgivenness that was eating me up! Knowing someone genuinely
cared helps alot. Someone needed to speak for me, now I can speak
out for others and lead them to the One Who healed me!
Rebecca[:)]



stateofgrace -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/15/2005 10:19:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: womaninchrist

All my psychiatrists seem to think I should tend to depression with bouts of mania and they've very often tested me for hyperthyroid (despite things like being heavy and having a low body temp). That said, your daughter is one of several people I know that tend more to a form of mania so I don't know why it'd be so baffling to psychiatrists.


I think it might happen more (the tendancy to veer more towards mania) with early-onset types.



Hischild1994 -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (12/20/2005 9:52:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pinksultana

Man Im having a bad day today....I suffered from clinical depression for four years and was on medication, and then I beleive I was released from the mental illness by Gods grace...but every now and then I wake up having a really bad day feeling like the old days...it takes everything I have to fight the depression and pray it away...but today I am having a rough time and Im so thankful this thread is here so I can share that.

Have you ever felt isolated in a room full of people? Or overwhelmed by life because you need to do one errand? Or so unsure of who you are that you look in the mirror and it actually feels weird to see your face because it feels like youve never really seen it before?
Its so hard to explain but on these bad days all I can think about is longing for nothingness...scared to die or live... I long for a new life but I dont want to do anything...it sounds lazy but it not that...its just an inescapable sadness

dont get me wrong I love God and have a relationship with him, but on these days it takes so much to hold onto him....

thanks for listening


BTDT and will probably do that again. How are you doing today?



salos -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (1/15/2006 8:35:12 PM)

Anybody have a suggestion regarding self talk? I have a problem with part of my mind wanting to beat me up emotionally like a certain person used to do.



agapetos -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (1/16/2006 3:30:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: salos

Anybody have a suggestion regarding self talk? I have a problem with part of my mind wanting to beat me up emotionally like a certain person used to do.

Cognitive behaviour therapy would probably be good for something like that ~ it looks at our thought patterns and people learn how to identify them and change them.



Invisible_Woman -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (1/19/2006 11:14:58 AM)

I read alot on cognitive therapy, although at the time I could not afford to actually go to a therapist just the concepts helped me. I think it is great.


Hey everyone here in our Mental Health Issues thread;
I had the vagus nerve stimulator implanted this week. Simple procedure, little pain so far. I don't go to get it activated until the 30th. I'll be blogging about it probably on my blog. There is a link to my blog below.



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